What if the path to freedom isn’t found in finally becoming whole and complete but in learning to embrace our lack? This episode’s guest, Peter Rollins, PhD, is a public intellectual known for his work in radical theology, psychoanalysis, and continental philosophy. In this conversation, Pete unpacks his life project, “pyrotheology,” a provocative theological approach that invites us into an encounter with the mystery, division, and alienation at the heart of reality itself. Rather than promising wholeness through belief, success, self-improvement, or even traditional religion, pyrotheology suggests that true liberation comes when we stop fleeing our lack and discover that this very brokenness is shared—even woven into the absolute. Pyrotheology’s emphasis on the Crucified God and relationality also makes way in this episode for dialogue about its fascinating overlaps with Franciscan theology. This conversation will stretch you, unsettle you, and perhaps even liberate you.
Peter Rollins is an author, philosopher, storyteller, producer and public speaker who has gained an international reputation for overturning traditional notions of religion and forming “churches” that preach the Good News that we can’t be satisfied, that life is difficult, and that we don’t know the secret. Peter gained his higher education from Queens University, Belfast, where he earned degrees (with distinction) in Scholastic Philosophy (BA Hons), Political Theory and Social Criticism (MA), and Post-Structural thought (PhD). He’s the author of numerous books, including How (Not) to Speak of God, Insurrection, The Idolatry of God, and The Divine Magician.

Show Notes for The Crucified God: Love, Lack, and Liberation
– Explore the work of Peter Rollins by visiting his website or following him on Patreon.
– Explore Pete’s books referenced in the episode, How (Not) to Speak of God and The Divine Magician.
– Follow Pete on Instagram or Facebook.
– Explore numerous lectures and videos on Pete’s YouTube channel.
– Listen to an excellent four-part series on God with Peter Rollins on the Robcast: Part I, Part II, Part III, and Part IV.
– If you enjoy this podcast, consider making a donation to the Province of Our Lady of Guadalupe or Franciscan Friars Charities.
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